in the republican primary mr. governor rick perry. >> it's three agencies of government i when i got there that are gone, commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there? oh,! >> commerce, education and the... >> e.p.a.? >> e.p.a. >> seriously? is e.p.a. what you were talking about? >> nos, nos, we were talking about the e.p.a. needs to be rebuilt. >> can you name the third one? >> the third agency of government i would do away with education, the commerce and let's see... i can't the third one i can't sorry. >> i can't. oops. [ laughter ] >> no, i make fun of him. i may be sitting here later on this hour talking about the third one. peter, help me. [ laughter ] >> so we're going to hear from your calls about debates do they matter, do they make a difference? we're going to talk about that for the rest of the hour. let's go to a little commercial break. presents coverage of the presidential debate. with commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like yo